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tenukiVicious703 [9k]: It kinda matters, but n1 wouldn't threaten it too muchVicious703 [9k]: q1 to start a ko is what white would do probablytempolimit [11k]: t5WhatsAGo [18k]: if white plays q1 to start a ko, then black captures o1, how will white respond if there are no ko threats?Uberdude [5d?]: white wouldn't q1Uberdude [5d?]: if black plays n1, white might t5 to connectUberdude [5d?]: o1 is not an important stoneUberdude [5d?]: what is important is white;s corner being alive and connecting to s6Vicious703 [9k]: I think he means just for the local corner, how would be respondVicious703 [9k]: But yes, that is correctUberdude [5d?]: if you want to answer n1, q3 is betterWhatsAGo [18k]: Do p2 or p3 matter?Uberdude [5d?]: yesUberdude [5d?]: absoultelyUberdude [5d?]: they cut p4 group fron o3 groupjavaman [2k]: n1,L1,p1,Q1,Uberdude [5d?]: white is hoping to attack the p4 groupjavaman [2k]: white lives on cornerUberdude [5d?]: no javaman, that is not locally alive, only alive because of s5Uberdude [5d?]: *s6WhatsAGo [18k]: java, after q1, what would happen if black plays q3?Slug [1d?]: if w goes first he livesVicious703 [9k]: White would respond to n1 to q3, according to UberdudeSlug [1d?]: but its not locally alive until he doesVicious703 [9k]: And I'm in no position to argue with himUberdude [5d?]: err nahRobertT [-]: how would you kill the corner if white didnt have s6?Uberdude [5d?]: if you want to play a move in the corner q3 is better than q1Achiles [3k?]: this position should be in a joseki bookSlug [1d?]: it is achilesUberdude [5d?]: robertt, t4Uberdude [5d?]: (in the suggested sequence of white l1, which means o1 is as though not there)clockwork [?]: O_o];B[nn]BL[2943.779]C[WhatsAGo [18k]: Cant black just T5 to cut them?Uberdude [5d?]: p1 q2 t4 is L groupSlug [1d?]: took so long to make this moveclockwork [?]: i like that move xDSlug [1d?]: it looked like best move to me a looong time agoUberdude [5d?]: m6 was another choiceclockwork [?]: isnt o6 more... ummm flexible?Slug [1d?]: its better slightlyUberdude [5d?]: more solidclockwork [?]: i seecharkysan [-]: if m6 instead of o6, m6 n5 n6 o6 ];W[jp]WL[3409.478]C[Uberdude [5d?]: yeah i'm not saying m6 bestUberdude [5d?]: just another move to think aboutUberdude [5d?]: justifying time useclockwork [?]: b can chase?charkysan [-]: it would be a good shape destroying point, if it workedSlug [1d?]: m6 was more complex than I could read];B[ip]BL[2861.411]C[charkysan [-]: when slug has a big fight on the goban, is it a slugfest?Goprince [3d]: cut...Uberdude [5d?]: m6 n5 o6 n6 n7 m7 k4 Uberdude [5d?]: then what?Uberdude [5d?]: quite some reading there with a snapbackNation [3k]: lolSlug [1d?]: heheUberdude [5d?]: k4 l5 l7 and w can't extendUberdude [5d?]: or k5 munches];W[km]WL[3253.223];B[io]BL[2833.654]C[charkysan [-]: wow, that was like blitz speed for this gameUberdude [5d?]: w probably has to push at k4 in answer to m6, but b block taking liberty is pleasingWaikato [2k]: m6 j4?santiago [-]: n7 now?Uberdude [5d?]: waikato, then push thoughGoprince [3d]: yea n7];W[mm]WL[3119.615]C[santiago [-]: 7d moves are so easy to predictUberdude [5d?]: i am not yet convinced this is better for black than m6];B[pn]BL[2803.558]C[santiago [-]: now w needs to livesantiago [-]: ie. t5 Slug [1d?]: uberdude, I dont think white would n5 to m6Steaddevel [3k]: b m6 can do something?Uberdude [5d?]: indeed not, but that was charksan's refutationGoprince [3d]: m6 l6Uberdude [5d?]: which i seem to have refutedWhatsAGo [18k]: How would white respond if black plays L5?Slug [1d?]: ah okUberdude [5d?]: gopronce, we are talking about instead of o6charkysan [-]: is a refutation of a refutation like a double ko?Goprince [3d]: ah nvmSlug [1d?]: no charkysan lolsantiago [-]: l5 k5 whatsagoUberdude [5d?]: remember white ignored b10WhatsAGo [18k]: then if black plays m6?Uberdude [5d?]: still owes a move there in large yose if wants those pointssantiago [-]: then k6 WhatsAGo [18k]: but then wouldnt black n5 and take?Achiles [3k?]: I think w can t5 in sente and then start settling the boardwuwei [4k]: J3Uberdude [5d?]: t5 probably not senteanapazapa [1d]: What tournament is this?charkysan [-]: in some variations i'm looking at, all groups liveAchiles [3k?]: i thought p5 necessary for bUberdude [5d?]: argentina fujitsu qualifiersantiago [-]: argentinian qualifiers for toyotasantiago [-]: fujitsuwuwei [4k]: it is a tournament for kids under 5 (sse b's pic?)];W[so]WL[2774.55]C[Slug [1d?]: hm.. maybe m6 was better lolUberdude [5d?]: =)whuang [1d]: Congratulation on being 5d, Uberdude!anapazapa [1d]: thx guysAroundOneD [2d]: p7wuwei [4k]: Gabriel es 7d...WhatsAGo [18k]: what about b, l5, l6, k5?Uberdude [5d?]: it's fake :pAroundOneD [2d]: clearUberdude [5d?]: kgs floatywuwei [4k]: the LR is colder nowDrMagaiver [7k]: why t5?santiago [-]: because w needs to live...DrMagaiver [7k]: s4 group or r6?Achiles [3k?]: and decent cashsantiago [-]: corner isn't alive as isUberdude [5d?]: bothDrMagaiver [7k]: hmmDrMagaiver [7k]: thanksAroundOneD [2d]: p7 clear and more optionsUberdude [5d?]: black t5 is sente to kill corner i think];B[ln]BL[2563.918]C[Slug [1d?]: lol];W[kn]WL[2764.065]C[Steaddevel [3k]: deadPampero [3k?]: "Al que nace barrigón es al ñudo que lo fajen"DexMorgan [7d]: no me sentia muy bien acaelh [4d]: aca pense que era una lucha razonableDexMorgan [7d]: por alguna extrania razonDexMorgan [7d]: negro vivio muy facil, capaz deberia contestar O6elh [4d]: nada extranio :)DexMorgan [7d]: voy a hacer que kim seung jun la ocmenteDexMorgan [7d]: y despues te voy a revender los comentarios por oroGoprince [3d]: jaja quieres matar a negro ? que malo ereselh [4d]: ah, barbarogeyingbin [1d]: dfasdfasdfasgeyingbin [1d]: adfasdfasgeyingbin [1d]: asdfasdfasgeyingbin [1d]: adsfasdfgeyingbin [1d]: adsfasdfgeyingbin [1d]: sdfasdfaDexMorgan [7d]: lolgeyingbin [1d]: sdfasdMendieta [9k]: ?];B[nk]BL[2551.207]C[Uberdude [5d?]: then b can attack w outside gorupsSlug [1d?]: too little too late :(];W[hr]WL[2756.702]C[Uberdude [5d?]: with a split around o9 or o8Achiles [3k?]: there we goSteaddevel [3k]: what is p9?Uberdude [5d?]: black still splits, but this only attacking 1 group, r6 safe nowmiao [6d]: no idea];B[hq]BL[2502.482]C[Steaddevel [3k]: is p9 block the road of l7 group?OnlyTenuki [4k]: m9Steaddevel [3k]: o9 sorryDexMorgan [7d]: me sorprendio esto no lo esperabaDexMorgan [7d]: no se si es mejor en este caso..elh [4d]: digo, para que M5 sea senteDexMorgan [7d]: noDexMorgan [7d]: no me gusta para nadaelh [4d]: bueno, a mi tampoco, pero igual pregunto];W[ir]WL[2710.926];B[iq]BL[2499.492]C[Uberdude [5d?]: h3 is rather strangeSteaddevel [3k]: j3 is not first hand sadUberdude [5d?]: if you answer h2 at j3, and white j2, would you h3 now?AroundOneD [2d]: o7 seals bAchiles [3k?]: j2 maybeGoprince [3d]: if j2 then l2 m2 and b still has 1 eyeGoprince [3d]: b traded points forst security i guessSteaddevel [3k]: but more pointsSteaddevel [3k]: h3 less pointsGoprince [3d]: pienso que si];W[gp]WL[2623.058]C[miao [6d]: good choiceGoprince [3d]: i agreeSolbanca [6d]: i think h3 means w j6 not sentesantiago [-]: i though j2 first for w, but this is betterGoprince [3d]: g6wuwei [4k]: that is not good for bmiao [6d]: h6 enaugh no?Goprince [3d]: probly bad style tho ^^DexMorgan [7d]: me termino dando recursos estoelh [4d]: pense que cualquier piedra que ayudara en el centro valia mas que puntitos de yoseDexMorgan [7d]: fernando jugaria G4DexMorgan [7d]: "comeme"elh [4d]: si, seguroGoprince [3d]: si muy grande g4DexMorgan [7d]: no puedo permitir negro g4 :SDexMorgan [7d]: yo miraba que esto hace M5 goteclockwork [?]: tan grande es g4 para negro?DexMorgan [7d]: y por lo tanto me da recursos por el lado derecho y por el centroGoprince [3d]: el turn a k9 es demasiado grandeDexMorgan [7d]: es sente, ojoso y conectaDexMorgan [7d]: y hace puntosclockwork [?]: ya veoDexMorgan [7d]: si blanco no puede jugar g4, no puede jugar h2](;B[im]BL[2432.186]C[Uberdude [5d?]: j7 Uberdude [5d?]: attack middlesantiago [-]: g6 leaves a nasty cutVicious703 [9k]: Heh, niceUberdude [5d?]: g6 shape badSteaddevel [3k]: does not w p8 ok?AroundOneD [2d]: h6Goprince [3d]: not really a cut since k6 is snete but tihnner i guesUberdude [5d?]: rather not use k6 sente];W[kk]WL[2578.05]C[Uberdude [5d?]: losing m6Goprince [3d]: trueDrMagaiver [7k]: w strongerDexMorgan [7d]: el peep creo que puede esperarMendieta [9k]: j9 no era mejor?DexMorgan [7d]: porque miraba a negro M8 tambien];B[jl]BL[2384.434]C[AroundOneD [2d]: sure, 7-4=3Uberdude [5d?]: w is rather thin, n9 rsistance can crumpleKamill [5k]: i wanat to see a fight in n13 area.];W[kl]WL[2546.942]C[Uberdude [5d?]: as b has m5];B[nj]BL[2370.771]C[Steaddevel [3k]: 11Steaddevel [3k]: l11Achiles [3k?]: its not fun to run aloneAroundOneD [2d]: q8AroundOneD [2d]: q8 is a stone hitting 2 birds];W[jk]WL[2437.892]C[Steaddevel [3k]: q8nocharkysan [-]: m5 l5 m7 n8 m8 Steaddevel [3k]: q8 black will not respond i thiinkrayheart [1k?]: esta es la fujitsu de argentina?AroundOneD [2d]: q8 is sentesantiago [-]: siMendieta [9k]: aca is acá without tilde.DexMorgan [7d]: para mi no hay mucho ataque](;B[ik]BL[2292.295]C[AroundOneD [2d]: or p7 kills];W[ij]WL[2391.638]C[elh [4d]: no me gustaba blanco J8];B[jj]BL[2243.158]C[Lynx [4k?]: el!DexMorgan [7d]: que poco edu-likeelh [4d]: tengo muchas caras :)Steaddevel [3k]: h1-Steaddevel [3k]: 10rayheart [1k?]: esta es la ultima ronda santiago o queda otro partido?Mendieta [9k]: por qué permitir que blanco se deslice por debajo con la boca de dragón hacia abajo?elh [4d]: porque no esperaba G4DexMorgan [7d]: para conseguir sente, Mendietaelh [4d]: entonces negro H6 era una opcion?Goprince [3d]: o10 a j10?DexMorgan [7d]: si entiendoMendieta [9k]: me refiero j9 en lugar del peep.DexMorgan [7d]: pero bien fernandescoDexMorgan [7d]: tenia muchas ganas de que me cortes aca];W[hk]WL[2339.922];B[il]BL[2239.323];W[li]WL[2333.204];B[ji]BL[2229.467]C[santiago [-]: falta el ganador de esta vs. aguilarLynx [4k?]: b has lost the gam epretty muchSteaddevel [3k]: m12Pampero [3k?]: bien, lo hizo enojarsantiago [-]: why do you think b is already lost, Lynx?Steaddevel [3k]: but i think p8 work-.-Achiles [3k?]: k12 rawrsantiago [-]: b will probably lean on m17 group to attack centerAroundOneD [2d]: h10Steaddevel [3k]: w just p16 is ok hahaSteaddevel [3k]: m13 may be better :)Kamill [5k]: no n13 WINNING MOVEKamill [5k]: ^^Steaddevel [3k]: i think m13 can for run and attack at p8reprisal [4d]: yes, ty];W[ni]WL[1915.225];B[oi]BL[2218.545];W[ol]WL[1912.307]C[Kamill [5k]: n13 point is the winner in my heart :)Steaddevel [3k]: m13 first can connect with o11 then...Pampero [3k?]: most 3k cant see beyond their nosecharkysan [-]: speaking for yourself, pinnochio?Pampero [3k?]: i wish i were pinocchiocharkysan [-]: pinnochio good at lie-ght playAchiles [3k?]: pinnochio had a hard time playing goAchiles [3k?]: he was messing the stones with the nosejavaman [2k]: P7, no brainer nowSteaddevel [3k]: m5 firstSteaddevel [3k]: and m7santiago [-]: m5 is gotejavaman [2k]: m5 is not goodcharkysan [-]: o8 o7 p9 m5 l5 m7 n8 m8 n9 m9 and w must give up one group or the otherjavaman [2k]: i am going to havemy breakfast and then will comeback];B[om]BL[1784.168]C[aussiemate [8k]: hurry backsantiago [-]: charkysan m5 k6 ...Pampero [3k?]: hola aussiemataussiemate [8k]: Grabbles!Steaddevel [3k]: m5 k6 right-3-charkysan [-]: right you arePampero [3k?]: :-)Pampero [3k?]: look , im 3k? now];W[hn]WL[1798.254]C[clockwork [?]: breadfruit lol];B[in]BL[1736.843]C[aussiemate [8k]: so you are!Steaddevel [3k]: n11Pampero [3k?]: some KGS error, i guessaussiemate [8k]: How did that happen?Pampero [3k?]: some player hit resign button by mistakeAchiles [3k?]: or someone you beat way back grewSteaddevel [3k]: some player u mean there are lots of player but only one person?Steaddevel [3k]: that is why u can 3k? Steaddevel [3k]: =)aussiemate [8k]: sudden increase in strength or were you boring him?Mendieta [9k]: doesn't w g7 cut connection?Achiles [3k?]: thats my favourite tactic to bore the opponent :pPampero [3k?]: boring the opponent is the only way to winSteaddevel [3k]: but the next move is for baussiemate [8k]: works every time!];W[hj]WL[1547.884]C[Mendieta [9k]: mmmKamill [5k]: nice movePampero [3k?]: im tired, im gonna take off my shoesjavaman [2k]: m5Pampero [3k?]: g7 elh [4d]: cual es la alternativa?];B[lo]BL[1646.009]C[Steaddevel [3k]: just g6 is okjavaman [2k]: then g8Kamill [5k]: b g7 is bad imojavaman [2k]: white probably wants to play J14 to kill K10Achiles [3k?]: whats the point of m5 0_oSteaddevel [3k]: save m6 and prepare for m10santiago [-]: allows m10 cutSteaddevel [3k]: same as me santiagoAchiles [3k?]: m10 gets o10 captured as isKamill [5k]: g6 or h7 for b ?Achiles [3k?]: i like g6];W[ko]WL[1230.484]C[santiago [-]: well, then it makes w heavier and saves m6 before conecting at g7 javaman [2k]: o8 o7 Q8 R9,n11,o11,n12, o13m10santiago [-]: otherwise later w might ignore m5 javaman [2k]: g7 is not necessary nowsantiago [-]: it isnt?javaman [2k]: o8 is better than g7Kamill [5k]: what does o8?Kamill [5k]: oh for b okMendieta [9k]: welcomeDexMorgan [7d]: aca..DexMorgan [7d]: le tenia pavor](;B[gl]BL[1487.036];W[nl]WL[1218.006]C[Kamill [5k]: finally is h8 for not dying :)Kamill [5k]: nice call javamanjavaman [2k]: sometimes, one or two moves, i am better than a 4d,javaman [2k]: lolwuwei [4k]: elh is better than 4dGoprince [3d]: no rlh is 4dGoprince [3d]: elhKamill [5k]: save those two stones or save the other two stones ? :)Goprince [3d]: w is clearly leadingsantiago [-]: according to his graph elh is an above average 4dpaar [1d?]: above average 4d = 4d];B[qm]BL[1133.098]C[Goprince [3d]: ooh ko!];W[rm]WL[1169.575]C[Goprince [3d]: do it!Corvin [3k]: Bacardi and coke, do it, do itmw [2k]: 50% of 4 dans are above averagereprisal [4d]: nahAchiles [3k?]: youre thinking of the median :0reprisal [4d]: 20 or 30% are right on averageMendieta [9k]: Do they follow Poisson or Gauss distribution?DexMorgan [7d]: but maybe black can waitGoprince [3d]: ya esta bastante ne retraso no?DexMorgan [7d]: do nothing and wait for itfalfan1 [2k]: esto es para ver quien se va a japon?DexMorgan [7d]: white preventing the ko is gote](;B[pl]BL[1034.703]C[paar [1d?]: b needs a kill. only w group in top right is killable];W[ql]WL[1158.444]C[mw [2k]: it's a joke. laugh or not then move on, christ almighty.santiago [-]: i think there are more below average 4 dans than strong 4 dansreprisal [4d]: neither, it is a nontrivial distributionDarick [11k]: q7Achiles [3k?]: i refuse to laugh at incorrect jokesOotakamoku [2d]: which ko should b play?wuwei [4k]: the game is about to be fun];B[pm]BL[971.124]C[reprisal [4d]: all of temmw [2k]: it's not incorrect, actuallymw [2k]: but i refuse to discuss a joke further...];W[qk]WL[1146.07];B[ok]BL[960.257]C[Darick [11k]: p9];W[kh]WL[1125.023]C[reprisal [4d]: b averted disasterreprisal [4d]: but all that gets him is the right to keep playing an unfavorable game longerSteaddevel [3k]: still has chancesantiago [-]: not really, k11 stones are a disasterwuwei [4k]: b lives, but trailsMendieta [9k]: b is low on territory and has no center.AroundOneD [2d]: b did not play well hereSteaddevel [3k]: still can use k11 to enhance landAroundOneD [2d]: w gainedpaar [1d?]: sac k11 to build power to attack the topreprisal [4d]: b13 and attack on m17...two options to complicate onlyreprisal [4d]: have to find something fastjavaman [2k]: black might need work on P17 group nowMendieta [9k]: what maneuver would let k11 gain more territory for b Steaddevel?reprisal [4d]: maybe try and split l12 from m17\AroundOneD [2d]: b does not have enough roomreprisal [4d]: with hope to move the cutting stones and get an attackreprisal [4d]: no idea where to start thoughSteaddevel [3k]: still can k12 firstreprisal [4d]: it's a move i'd be loathe to play without a planreprisal [4d]: very expensive kind of moveMendieta [9k]: and then Steaddevel?AroundOneD [2d]: n16 1stSteaddevel [3k]: ?AroundOneD [2d]: then k12 tofightSteaddevel [3k]: no la very bigMendieta [9k]: ok.reprisal [4d]: its really hard for me to decide if n16 is the right pressSteaddevel [3k]: ifn16> j14reprisal [4d]: i think b has basically one shot to get things rightAroundOneD [2d]: then n17 too bigreprisal [4d]: my worry is n16 n17 and that's all i getreprisal [4d]: and b m16 won't be senteAroundOneD [2d]: you will get one sidereprisal [4d]: without m16 i dont think i can block the connectionreprisal [4d]: maybe starting at m16 is betterAroundOneD [2d]: w owns c12, so j14 ok for bKamill [5k]: how powerfull is h16 group ?reprisal [4d]: ehhreprisal [4d]: it'll have to dodarwold [1k]: if b can't win without these two stones... j12?];B[ld]BL[486.601]C[reprisal [4d]: answer is not all that powerfulreprisal [4d]: but you go to war with the army you have :)Kamill [5k]: okreprisal [4d]: and its still stronger than m17 groupOotakamoku [2d]: seems like b is comitting to killing l4 with m16reprisal [4d]: well one halfreprisal [4d]: or at least severely damagemiao [6d]: n16?reprisal [4d]: any opinion on m16 miao?miao [6d]: it is propably a bad move but also a gamblereprisal [4d]: i didnt have any better ideasSteaddevel [3k]: n16 rightmiao [6d]: so it is reasonablereprisal [4d]: you have any better ideas?miao [6d]: hmmiao [6d]: not easyreprisal [4d]: yeah :)];W[mc]WL[972.464];B[jh]BL[482.664]C[miao [6d]: m16 seems ok for now];W[jg]WL[967.049]C[miao [6d]: huh];B[ig]BL[478.634]C[reprisal [4d]: well i'd rather m16 n17 then n16 n17miao [6d]: i thought maybe kosumi works but this?reprisal [4d]: i didnt read itmiao [6d]: it dependsmiao [6d]: i want to attack j17 a bit latermiao [6d]: so i consider l16 and n16Steaddevel [3k]: i think k14miao [6d]: l16 is too much of a gamblesantiago [-]: double hane?miao [6d]: whichmiao [6d]: ?Ootakamoku [2d]: cant double hanesantiago [-]: j14 Ootakamoku [2d]: at j14 if thats what you meanpaar [1d?]: what was m16 for?Ootakamoku [2d]: unless Im missreadingmiao [6d]: m16 seperates m11 and n17 for nowAroundOneD [2d]: no j14reprisal [4d]: yesreprisal [4d]: about all you can ask of one kikashi stone :)AroundOneD [2d]: h12 for j14AroundOneD [2d]: w has troublepaar [1d?]: kikashi isn't supposed to result in a loss. m16 solidifies n17santiago [-]: but b gains m16 paarmiao [6d]: kikashi is supposed to just be kikkashiAchiles [3k?]: k14 doesnt connect?miao [6d]: :P];W[jf]WL[677.369]C[mw [2k]: kikashi usually strengthens your opponent and should be something that can be sacrificedSteaddevel [3k]: seems g14 small but,,bzzzorp: h];B[gi]BL[380.15]C[AroundOneD [2d]: in fact, j12 cut and give up h10 3 stones is not bad ideaxhucia [1k]: g11 good moveSteaddevel [3k]: so g11 bad move?Kamill [5k]: wowOotakamoku [2d]: g11 looks honte, but b behind so can he afford honte?Kamill [5k]: i thought k12 was deadxhucia [1k]: protect j12 cut pointSteaddevel [3k]: but seem g14 small tooSteaddevel [3k]: i cant think other alternative move laAchiles [3k?]: thats also 8 ptsSteaddevel [3k]: so g11 is right i thinksantiago [-]: losing j10 weakens l9 around1dOotakamoku [2d]: I belive the idea here is that w cannot escape with h10 stones, without making k11 storng enough to rly threatten the w dragonxhucia [1k]: w must think about H8xhucia [1k]: H8 and thenSteaddevel [3k]: too smallSteaddevel [3k]: if i were w i am thinking of how to kill m16xhucia [1k]: what about m16xhucia [1k]: h8 is strategy w but g11 protect all of them..so g11 good moveSteaddevel [3k]: maybe j14 but too normal-.-paar [1d?]: try h13? cut off j17];W[eb]WL[397.635]C[paar [1d?]: or this is pretty blunt too :)Steaddevel [3k]: g14paar [1d?]: maybe w figures dragon lives and he has enoughRookwood [2k]: p16Achiles [3k?]: cant you see e18 is the hot point on the tableSteaddevel [3k]: p16........but w has already alive and l16 seems can escapeshinobi90 [7d]: nah over playAroundOneD [2d]: j14rayheart [1k?]: it doesn't feels good xhucia [1k]: j14 correct shapereprisal [4d]: have to consider h14 to locallyAroundOneD [2d]: connnection and keep attackingSteaddevel [3k]: how about l17];B[kd]BL[173.215]C[shinobi90 [7d]: L16 too seperate the two groupes is better//shinobi90 [7d]: oh he played...xhucia [1k]: l17 sente but risky planAroundOneD [2d]: yreprisal [4d]: risky plan is all b can doxhucia [1k]: yes :)reprisal [4d]: there is no clear road to victory for himreprisal [4d]: but still chances to pull something off hereSteaddevel [3k]: how about h18 nowAroundOneD [2d]: m14xhucia [1k]: i have no idea for h18...:pSteaddevel [3k]: but w p17 group is going to deadclockwork [?]: the kill of l4 is still posible?Kamill [5k]: why i think about h12; im outpaar [1d?]: would try k18 instead of h18 to keep w's weak group safeAroundOneD [2d]: somehow has to protect the cutxhucia [1k]: yes k18 Achiles [3k?]: o15 shape then j14];W[kc]WL[98.014]C[AroundOneD [2d]: w has weak link around l12Steaddevel [3k]: l17 seem for h18xhucia [1k]: l12 ladderelh [4d]: K17 mejor?](;B[jd]BL[112.216]C[Achiles [3k?]: only insurance is that k12 in dangerSteaddevel [3k]: maybe j14 first ?clockwork [?]: una lastima eduardoDexMorgan [7d]: cuando jugaste k16, senti que no podia perderDexMorgan [7d]: la ventaja territorial de blanco aca se siente suficiente..elh [4d]: leiste mi ultimo comentario?DexMorgan [7d]: repetilo porque lei muchos elh [4d]: decia que no le veo tantas libertadores a negro en el semeai de marrasDexMorgan [7d]: ah siDexMorgan [7d]: pero yo tampoco a blancoDexMorgan [7d]: y las 3 compartidaselh [4d]: algo lei durante la partida (un poquito)DexMorgan [7d]: puede ser sekiDexMorgan [7d]: yo no me puse a leer el semeai porqu eno queria angustiarmeelh [4d]: ja jaDexMorgan [7d]: tenia fe en que al final de todo ibas a jugar la jugada eduDexMorgan [7d]: :)DexMorgan [7d]: con 1 hora mas de reloj capaz me ponia];W[if]WL[74.546];B[hh]BL[107.277];W[hg]WL[71.74];B[ih]BL[104.703](;W[mk]WL[69.474]C[paar [1d?]: awful for bAroundOneD [2d]: now seems okxhucia [1k]: b lost chance hereshinobi90 [7d]: YEPshinobi90 [7d]: tought gabi might lose.Steaddevel [3k]: maybe m13Steaddevel [3k]: l13xhucia [1k]: l13 too latexhucia [1k]: maybe n11paar [1d?]: b has to think about not dying nowxhucia [1k]: lolxhucia [1k]: h13 KOxhucia [1k]: i thinkSteaddevel [3k]: if b cut at h13 i think w will n14Steaddevel [3k]: and ko-3- maybexhucia [1k]: yepAroundOneD [2d]: n16xhucia [1k]: think about m10 group firstEddy [2d]: maybe m14AroundOneD [2d]: harder and harder for bleo2011liu [3d]: n10leo2011liu [3d]: or n16paar [1d?]: k18 maybe?](;B[bg]BL[312.539]OB[14]C[xhucia [1k]: o_0xhucia [1k]: tennukipaar [1d?]: timesuji :)clockwork [?]: ಠ_ಠshinobi90 [7d]: big.. but timing not good i thinkclockwork [?]: b is giving up in th e center?radishimo [1d]: what part of the center is there for him to give up?xhucia [1k]: b already to fight...maybe KO fight at h13 for protect j17 grouppaar [1d?]: b still trying to thik of a planAroundOneD [2d]: c12 and then n15darwold [1k]: b must think upper is alive anywaybzzzorp: n14 VitalY [?]: g5 looks big leo2011liu [3d]: very slow gamen16 will end the game nowelh [4d]: claro];W[me]WL[545.79]OW[14]C[xhucia [1k]: yeahhhhhxhucia [1k]: he playedxhucia [1k]: ko fightdarwold [1k]: h15 is an eye for bleo2011liu [3d]: m14 the only moveradishimo [1d]: except it does nothingxhucia [1k]: n16 cut pointxhucia [1k]: kill or is killed];B[md]BL[151.704]OB[13];W[oe]WL[540.046]OW[13]C[xhucia [1k]: o15];B[mf]BL[109.792]OB[12]C[shinobi90 [7d]: ggxhucia [1k]: timesuji];W[ne]WL[523.396]OW[12]C[xhucia [1k]: o15 vitalxhucia [1k]: >.
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