(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]DT[2013-02-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/];B[dp];W[pd];B[dc];W[pp];B[nc];W[pf];B[jd]LB[cf:A][df:B]C[playing at A (or B) would be better](;W[ce];B[dh](;W[df]TR[jd]C[the marked stone will give this joseki painful for white];B[ee];W[cc];B[cb];W[dd];B[ec];W[ed];B[fd];W[fc];B[bc];W[cd];B[eb](;W[fe];B[gd];W[eh];B[di];W[dg];B[ei];W[fh];B[fi];W[gh];B[ge];W[ff];B[hj]LB[cb:13][eb:21][bc:19][cc:12][dc:3][ec:15][fc:18][nc:5][cd:20][dd:14][ed:16][fd:17][gd:23][jd:7][pd:2][ce:8][ee:11][fe:22][ge:31][df:10][ff:32][pf:6][dg:26][dh:9][eh:24][fh:28][gh:30][di:25][ei:27][fi:29][hj:33][dp:1][pp:4]C[wol [1d]: blackNathan [3k]: btwisted [-]: bKrapsman [4k]: bChanjub [6k?]: btwisted [-]: 8Nathan [3k]: 8?wol [1d]: 10 wol [1d]: too slowvrnBugatti [11k]: 10Nathan [3k]: 18?wol [1d]: 24 was painfulChanjub [6k?]: 20must be instead of 19])(;W[fb];B[ea];W[hc];B[fg]C[this is joseki but with the marked stone, black can connect his two stones and separate white weak groups];W[ff];B[gd];W[eg];B[eh];W[hd];B[gf];W[gg];B[fh];W[ge];B[fe];W[hf];B[ef];W[dg];B[gf];W[bb];B[he];W[ba];B[ie];W[jc]LB[ib:A]C[white has to defend at A];B[ib]))(;W[ee]C[better for white but not interesting];B[fd];W[cc];B[cb];W[bc];B[dd];W[de];B[fg];W[gf];B[gd];W[ff]LB[cg:A]C[black A would be painfull for white])(;W[fe];B[ee];W[ef];B[ed];W[df];B[ff];W[fg];B[gf];W[eh](;B[ge];W[di]LB[lc:A]C[this joseki is ok for white. black still has a weakness at A])(;B[dj];W[fc]TR[jd]C[this is joseki but it depends on whether there's the marked stone or not](;AE[jd];B[fd];W[ge];B[gd];W[he];B[hd];W[ie];B[jc];W[hg])(;B[fd];W[ge];B[he];W[gd];B[gc];W[hd];B[hc];W[id];B[ie])))(;W[ed];B[dd];W[de];B[ee];W[dg];B[fe];W[eg];B[ch]LB[fd:A]C[black has to make a move at A because white couls have the chance to escape later. But this nobi is very powerful]))(;W[df];B[ce](;W[cf];B[de];W[ef];B[dj];W[ee];B[fc]C[difficult for white])(;W[ck];B[cm]LB[de:A][cn:B]C[if black A, white B];W[cf]))(;W[cf];B[cd];W[ci]LB[dj:A]C[A is also possible])(;W[de];B[dh];W[fe];B[fc];W[he];B[gd];W[ge];B[gh]C[bad for white]))