(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[6.50]TM[1800]PW[csaba]PB[flogo]BR[2d]DT[2013-03-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp][pp]RE[W+Resign];W[ec]WL[1787.17];B[de]BL[1789.422];W[cd]WL[1780.46];B[ce]BL[1782.584];W[bd]WL[1778.474];B[fe]BL[1771.552];W[ed]WL[1776.43];B[ee]BL[1767.293];W[be]WL[1775.324];B[cg]BL[1756.39];W[fq]WL[1767.209]LB[gd:A]C[white usually plays A first. But here, if he does, black can play at the bottom and it would be very painful for white];B[dn]BL[1735.908];W[jq]WL[1754.329];B[lq]BL[1711.267];W[qj]WL[1744.027];B[hq]BL[1695.648];W[hr]WL[1740.152];B[ir]BL[1670.777];W[iq]WL[1729.152];B[gr]BL[1663.934];W[hp]WL[1727.459];B[gq]BL[1661.492];W[gp]WL[1725.849];B[fp]BL[1651.208](;W[dq]WL[1721.828];B[fr]BL[1622.412];W[cp]WL[1706.131](;B[ep]BL[1589.914];W[cn]WL[1699.554];B[cq]BL[1569.904];W[do]WL[1692.82];B[bp]BL[1560.539];W[co]WL[1687.256];B[bq]BL[1525.252];W[fo]WL[1682.974](;B[eq]BL[1512.739]C[black should push the other side to make cutting points];W[eo]WL[1674.463];B[qh]BL[1492.743];W[qn]WL[1667.088];B[qp]BL[1479.245];W[pl]WL[1656.046];B[nc]BL[1438.072];W[io]WL[1637.77];B[gc]BL[1419.692]LB[hd:A][bf:B]C[the cutting will be difficult for white to handle. But the keima at A would have been better to protect black moyo. B is very big because there are a lot of adji];W[id]WL[1625.233];B[hf]BL[1385.171]LB[he:C]C[with C, there are no more adji for black](;W[if]WL[1621.089];B[ig]BL[1383.092];W[jf]WL[1614.614];B[jg]BL[1373.366];W[kg]WL[1603.71];B[kf]BL[1328.489];W[kd]WL[1558.93](;B[lf]BL[1310.735];W[md]WL[1553.133]LB[gd:B][hg:A]C[If black wants to fight, he should have STRONG SHAPE ! it means without cutting points];B[jc]BL[1301.093];W[jd]WL[1549.462];B[ic]BL[1256.463];W[nd]WL[1535.748];B[oc]BL[1252.249];W[kh]WL[1498.42];B[mg]BL[1211.022];W[hg]WL[1494.368];B[ji]BL[1209.732];W[hh]WL[1473.24];B[ii]BL[1207.967];W[gd]WL[1470.023];B[fd]BL[1193.851];W[gf]WL[1458.904](;B[fc]BL[1146.668];W[he]WL[1423.285];B[li]BL[1143.907];W[qf]WL[1398.369];B[qd]BL[1109.741];W[nq]WL[1363.184](;B[np]BL[1088.755]C[difficult for black to manage because white has two strong groups around];W[oq]WL[1359.322]C[white should have played the nobi the other side ?](;B[op]BL[1084.455];W[mq]WL[1356.335];B[lp]BL[1042.272];W[mp]WL[1348.21];B[mo]BL[1040.795];W[lr]WL[1346.078];B[kr]BL[1039.02];W[mr]WL[1344.334];B[jr]BL[990.681];W[qr]WL[1322.36];B[rr]BL[981.269];W[pr]WL[1311.685];B[rq]BL[979.066];W[lo]WL[1277.881];B[kq]BL[974.856];W[mn]WL[1275.967];B[no]BL[973.642];W[os]WL[1269.719];B[ln]BL[946.437];W[ko]WL[1261.734];B[rl]BL[910.761];W[ql]WL[1254.337];B[rm]BL[886.644];W[rn]WL[1237.644];B[rk]BL[876.855];W[rj]WL[1231.472];B[qm]BL[872.066];W[pm]WL[1229.392];B[pn]BL[870.832];W[on]WL[1228.208];B[po]BL[864.996];W[rh]WL[1225.521];B[bf]BL[839.425];W[fb]WL[1213.541](;B[cj]BL[826.034]C[there's nothing wrong blocking first];W[gb]WL[1186.433];B[lb]BL[799.701];W[jk]WL[1150.911];B[mm]BL[751.098];W[qk]WL[1120.024];B[ro]BL[739.192];W[nn]WL[1116.886];B[nl]BL[728.902];W[lm]WL[1064.528];B[kn]BL[715.29];W[jn]WL[1062.976];B[km]BL[686.122];W[ll]WL[1039.215];B[kl]BL[681.846];W[lk]WL[1036.657];B[om]BL[668.687];W[kk]WL[1033.667];B[hi]BL[608.268]C[prevent the cutting point would have been better and black would have been ahead];W[ki]WL[984.045];B[kj]BL[604.588];W[lj]WL[982.428];B[jj]BL[602.449];W[lh]WL[973.471];B[lc]BL[499.035];W[gi]WL[943.838];B[ik]BL[494.963];W[jl]WL[925.047];B[gj]BL[482.685];W[fj]WL[919.764];B[fi]BL[473.123];W[gh]WL[918.042];B[gk]BL[471.004];W[ej]WL[862.381];B[ei]BL[728.341];W[di]WL[852.58];B[eh]BL[716.921];W[el]WL[839.007];B[fl]BL[707.011];W[dj]WL[835.173];B[il]BL[695.6];W[gm]WL[801.326];B[mi]BL[687.57];W[nj]WL[764.963];B[mh]BL[676.792];W[bh]WL[719.721];B[fg]BL[669.192];W[hc]WL[694.678];B[hb]BL[667.052];W[hd]WL[693.28];B[eb]BL[622.745];W[db]WL[690.764];B[dh]BL[550.155];W[ci]WL[672.346];B[ld]BL[515.259];W[ib]WL[663.064];B[pi]BL[477.871];W[qg]WL[653.961];B[re]BL[448.558];W[oh]WL[630.81];B[mj]BL[437.42];W[mk]WL[619.89];B[pg]BL[417.708];W[ph]WL[614.259])(;B[gb];W[dj];B[cb];W[db];B[dd];W[cc];B[dc];W[bb];B[eb];W[ca]C[white lost too much]))(;B[mp];W[mr];B[lr];W[rq];B[rp]C[black can defend the other side but it's good for white];W[qr]))(;B[pn];W[pm](;B[on];W[mp];B[rn]C[seems good for black];W[rm];B[qo];W[qm];B[jr];W[pr];B[qr];W[pq];B[qq]C[ugly for black ?])(;B[mp];W[np];B[no];W[mo];B[lo];W[mn];B[nn])))(;B[he];W[hd](;B[fc];W[ge];B[gg])(;B[ge];W[fc];B[lb];W[hc];B[fi]C[black gained a lot])))(;B[ke](;W[jd];B[ld];W[lc];B[md](;W[hc];B[gd]LB[fb:A]C[white can live but if any move around A would be difficult for white])(;W[gd];B[fd];W[fc];B[hd]C[white can play the previous Ko];W[gb];B[hc];W[hb];B[ic];W[jb];B[ib];W[ia];B[jc];W[kc];B[he];W[lb]C[painful for white];B[hh]))(;W[je];B[ld];W[kc];B[lc]LB[he:A]C[more diffuclt for white if black plays at A];W[lg];B[le];W[hg];B[gf];W[ih])))(;W[gd];B[fd];W[fc];B[hd];W[hc];B[ge];W[gb]C[dangerous Ko for white, but he can gain something with it]))(;B[eo];W[en];B[eq];W[dm];B[fn];W[go];B[gn];W[io];B[fl];W[ck];B[hn]))(;B[co](;W[bo](;B[bn];W[ep];B[eq];W[do];B[cn];W[fo]C[quite ok for white])(;B[cq];W[ep];B[bp];W[fo];B[er]C[not bad for black]))(;W[ep];B[eq];W[do];B[eo];W[dp];B[fn];W[cn];B[cm];W[bo];B[bn];W[co];B[dm];W[er];B[fq];W[jr];B[hs];W[jo];B[bm];W[dr]C[a bit difficult for white])))(;W[fr];B[hs];W[fs];B[gs];W[jr];B[eq];W[fo];B[ep];W[io]C[normal joseki. Black corner is huge but white shape is strong and there were 5 black stones at the beginning against 2 white stones]))