(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]DT[2013-04-20]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AW[cp];B[ep];W[hp](;B[dm];W[dp]C[how to answer to this white move ?];B[eo];W[eq];B[fq];W[fp](;B[dq];W[er];B[dr];W[fr];B[bq];W[cq];B[cr];W[br];B[bs];W[ar];B[aq];W[ds];B[as];W[br];B[ar];W[es];B[bp];W[cs];B[co];W[br];B[cr]LB[dl:B][dm:A]C[this is joseki. But black would prefer to have A stone at B])(;B[gq];W[er];B[gp];W[fo];B[go];W[fn];B[do]C[black has still this way];AE[dm][do]AB[dl]LB[do:A]TR[dl]C[but with marked stone a little further, black can't turn that easially at A];W[];B[gn];W[fm];B[dn]C[still ok for black]))(;B[dl]C[with a far stone, white would not want to play at the hoshi];W[eo]C[muwh better for white];B[fo];W[en];B[dp];W[co];B[cq];W[cm];B[fq];W[bq];B[cr];W[bk]))