(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PW[Rodolphe]PB[Shedal]WR[三段]BR[四段]DT[2012-09-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[黑胜15.50];B[pd]BL[1789.528];W[cp]WL[1788.153];B[pp]BL[1759.962];W[dc]WL[1784.567];B[eq]BL[1741.183](;W[gq]WL[1768.235]LB[do:B][hp:D][ip:C][iq:A]C[Shedal: According to my pro games database, in this position W never plays a low close pincer. The most common responses in this corner are marked with A, B, C, and D.Can you please explain what's supposed to be happening in this corner?Alex: This pincer is used if W is strong aroundAny other pincer - not attractive for W too -](;B[do]BL[1686.557]C[Is this a good choice of joseki?Alex: Yes, looks fine, but there are other ways -];W[dp]WL[1709.436];B[ep]BL[1682.607];W[eo]WL[1707.339];B[fo]BL[1657.471];W[en]WL[1702.351];B[gp]BL[1655.754];W[hp]WL[1673.086];B[ho]BL[1637.189];W[ip]WL[1668.241](;B[bo]BL[1627.803]LB[io:A]C[Usually A first -];W[cr]WL[1595.917];B[io]BL[1620.778];W[jp]WL[1593.056];B[dn]BL[1542.797]C[New move? It's interesting];W[em]WL[1582.497]LB[gn:A]C[Maybe A here? For defending in sente? ];B[dr]BL[1526.738];W[co]WL[1342.855]LB[bp:A]C[Shedal: W tried a hamete here. I believe, the right response here is A?Did B handle the hamete right?Alex: Yes, must be at A];B[cn]BL[1523.482];W[bn]WL[1340.331];B[bm]BL[1508.481];W[an]WL[1336.978];B[am]BL[1293.541];W[cm]WL[1276.293];B[ao]BL[1287.908];W[bn]WL[1270.434];B[an]BL[1223.332];W[dm]WL[1260.534];B[bn]BL[1221.111]C[Hard game for W now];W[bl]WL[1249.467];B[bk]BL[1111.334]C[Shedal: It seems like this move is the only way.Alex: Yes];W[cl]WL[1202.234];B[al]BL[1107.967](;W[cj]WL[1107.97]C[W has a choice -];B[cq]BL[1045.328];W[bj]WL[1040.153]LB[bp:A][bq:B]C[A-B first - 1 extra point here - maybe even more];B[bp]BL[1039.906]C[Great result for B!];W[nq]WL[1032.215]C[Shedal: W got thickness on the left, facing his corner, and also he took sente to make this approach. To me, it looks like the hamete worked out fine for W.Alex: I like B here. Thick and big corner];B[pq]BL[962.971]LB[qn:A]C[Usually A];W[no]WL[1000.104];B[pm]BL[915.889]LB[qm:A]C[Shedal: Is this ok?Alex: Why on the 4th line? A is more common];W[nc]WL[993.67];B[kd]BL[866.374]C[Shedal: ok?Alex: Yes];W[qf]WL[649.799];B[nd]BL[786.29];W[md]WL[481.883];B[ne]BL[774.165];W[qc]WL[478.975];B[oc]BL[767.967];W[qd]WL[474.831];B[qh]BL[751.117]LB[mc:A]C[Shedal: Could W punish B? (e.g. A)Alex: Black's extension is correct. Hard to punish the proper move :)](;W[rf]WL[153.589]C[Too defensive! -];B[nb]BL[724.744];W[de]WL[134.724];B[db]BL[657.412]LB[hc:A]C[Shedal: W didn't know what to do about this probe. Is it good? How should W handle this?Alex: Maybe just A? But attachment is ok too];W[eb]WL[35.038]LB[cc:A]C[A is most solid];B[cc]BL[596.872];W[cb]WL[30]OW[5];B[dd]BL[589.611];W[ec]WL[30]OW[5];B[bb]BL[576.224];W[da]WL[30]OW[5];B[ce]BL[561.267]C[Looks great for B];W[ed]WL[30]OW[5];B[cd]BL[549.884];W[df]WL[30]OW[4];B[cf]BL[523.976];W[dg]WL[30]OW[4];B[ba]BL[503.922]LB[bh:A]C[A is better];W[id]WL[30]OW[4];B[ic]BL[397.907](;W[hc]WL[30]OW[4]C[Shedal: This looked slack to me -Alex: Yes, I agree];B[jc]BL[393.721];W[or]WL[30]OW[4];B[pr]BL[380.009];W[qj]WL[30]OW[3];B[ql]BL[351.918];W[gn]WL[30]OW[2];B[go]BL[343.845];W[if]WL[30]OW[2]LB[hb:A]C[A is honte];B[mp]BL[296.798];W[np]WL[30]OW[2];B[mr]BL[153.954]LB[hb:A]C[B is winning, so just start yose at A];W[mq]WL[30]OW[1];B[jo]BL[141.939];W[ko]WL[30]OW[1];B[nr]BL[117.069];W[oq]WL[30]OW[1];B[os]BL[109.306];W[lr]WL[30]OW[1];B[ih]BL[100.658]LB[hb:A]C[Still A first];W[kf]WL[30]OW[1];B[me]BL[30]OB[5];W[ij]WL[30]OW[1]C[Shedal: At this point, we were both in byomi, so we couldn't really make concious decisions. Feel free to comment on anything you notice further. In the end, B won by 15.5 points.];B[ji]BL[30]OB[5];W[hh]WL[30]OW[1];B[hg]BL[30]OB[5];W[ig]WL[30]OW[1];B[he]BL[30]OB[4]C[Why so actively?];W[ie]WL[30]OW[1];B[hd]BL[30]OB[4];W[hb]WL[30]OW[1];B[hi]BL[30]OB[3];W[ii]WL[30]OW[1];B[gh]BL[30]OB[3];W[jh]WL[30]OW[1]C[This fight was clearly not necessary for B];B[hk]BL[30]OB[3];W[hj]WL[30]OW[1];B[gj]BL[30]OB[3];W[gk]WL[30]OW[1];B[fk]BL[30]OB[3];W[gl]WL[30]OW[1];B[hh]BL[30]OB[3];W[kh]WL[30]OW[1];B[dk]BL[30]OB[3];W[ck]WL[30]OW[1];B[di]BL[30]OB[3](;W[dh]WL[30]OW[1]C[Slow -];B[fi]BL[30]OB[3];W[ej]WL[30]OW[1];B[dj]BL[30]OB[3];W[eh]WL[30]OW[1]LB[fh:A]C[Just A];B[ei]BL[30]OB[3];W[fh]WL[30]OW[1];B[hl]BL[30]OB[3];W[hm]WL[30]OW[1];B[fl]BL[30]OB[3];W[gm]WL[30]OW[1];B[jj]BL[30]OB[3];W[ik]WL[30]OW[1];B[il]BL[30]OB[3];W[jk]WL[30]OW[1];B[im]BL[30]OB[3];W[ci]WL[30]OW[1]C[Even now B is in trouble];B[kk]BL[30]OB[3];W[jl]WL[30]OW[1];B[lj]BL[30]OB[2];W[li]WL[30]OW[1];B[kj]BL[30]OB[2];W[in]WL[30]OW[1];B[jm]BL[30]OB[2];W[kl]WL[30]OW[1];B[km]BL[30]OB[2];W[ll]WL[30]OW[1];B[lm]BL[30]OB[2];W[ml]WL[30]OW[1];B[kp]BL[30]OB[2];W[mm]WL[30]OW[1]LB[mj:A]C[A is most solid];B[mn]BL[30]OB[2];W[nn]WL[30]OW[1];B[kq]BL[30]OB[2];W[ln]WL[30]OW[1];B[lo]BL[30]OB[2];W[mo]WL[30]OW[1];B[kn]BL[30]OB[2];W[kr]WL[30]OW[1];B[hf]BL[30]OB[2];W[ff]WL[30]OW[1];B[mj]BL[30]OB[2];W[nh]WL[30]OW[1];B[fe]BL[30]OB[2];W[gd]WL[30]OW[1];B[oi]BL[30]OB[2](;W[oh]WL[30]OW[1]C[Slack -];B[pi]BL[30]OB[2];W[pg]WL[30]OW[1];B[ni]BL[30]OB[2];W[mi]WL[30]OW[1];B[bg]BL[30]OB[2];W[bh]WL[30]OW[1];B[jr]BL[30]OB[2];W[lp]WL[30]OW[1];B[mn]BL[30]OB[2];W[ol]WL[30]OW[1];B[nk]BL[30]OB[2];W[om]WL[30]OW[1];B[pk]BL[30]OB[2];W[lq]WL[30]OW[1];B[jq]BL[30]OB[2];W[ms]WL[30]OW[1];B[mg]BL[30]OB[2];W[mh]WL[30]OW[1];B[ib]BL[30]OB[2];W[ee]WL[30]OW[1]C[Hmmm. Really necessary?Seems that W was too happy after killing this groupMaybe he thought that he cannot lose?End of commentary];B[rg]BL[30]OB[2];W[pn]WL[30]OW[1];B[qn]BL[30]OB[2];W[pl]WL[30]OW[1];B[qm]BL[30]OB[2];W[po]WL[30]OW[1];B[qo]BL[30]OB[2];W[js]WL[30]OW[1];B[is]BL[30]OB[2];W[ks]WL[30]OW[1];B[ir]BL[30]OB[2];W[pb]WL[30]OW[1];B[sf]BL[30]OB[2];W[se]WL[30]OW[1];B[sg]BL[30]OB[2];W[qe]WL[30]OW[1];B[gb]BL[30]OB[2];W[gc]WL[30]OW[1];B[ha]BL[30]OB[2];W[ob]WL[30]OW[1];B[mc]BL[30]OB[2];W[qk]WL[30]OW[1];B[ri]BL[30]OB[2];W[ok]WL[30]OW[1];B[pj]BL[30]OB[2];W[cg]WL[30]OW[1];B[ag]BL[30]OB[2];W[ah]WL[30]OW[1];B[ae]BL[30]OB[2];W[fb]WL[30]OW[1];B[ga]BL[30]OB[2];W[fa]WL[30]OW[1];B[ia]BL[30]OB[2];W[ln]WL[30]OW[1];B[ko]BL[30]OB[2];W[ns]WL[30]OW[1];B[ps]BL[30]OB[2];W[ak]WL[30]OW[1];B[oo]BL[30]OB[2];W[on]WL[30]OW[1];B[fn]BL[30]OB[2];W[fm]WL[30]OW[1];B[ph]BL[30]OB[2];W[lg]WL[30]OW[1];B[ng]BL[30]OB[2];W[og]WL[30]OW[1];B[hn]BL[30]OB[2];W[le]WL[30]OW[1];B[ld]BL[30]OB[2];W[op]WL[30]OW[1];B[ke]BL[30]OB[2];W[lf]WL[30]OW[1];B[oa]BL[30]OB[2];W[pa]WL[30]OW[1];B[na]BL[30]OB[2];W[pc]WL[30]OW[1];B[pe]BL[30]OB[2];W[of]WL[30]OW[1];B[oe]BL[30]OB[2];W[ca]WL[30]OW[1];B[je]BL[30]OB[2];W[jf]WL[30]OW[1];B[nl]BL[30]OB[2];W[qg]WL[30]OW[1];B[mn]BL[30]OB[2];W[nm]WL[30]OW[1];B[ln]BL[30]OB[2];W[ki]WL[30]OW[1];B[rk]BL[30]OB[2];W[]WL[30]OW[1];B[]BL[30]OB[2]TW[ea][qa][ra][sa][db][qb][rb][sb][fc][rc][sc][fd][hd][rd][sd][fe][ge][he][re][ef][gf][hf][eg][fg][gg][hg][jg][kg][ch][gh][hh][ih][lh][ai][bi][di][ei][fi][gi][hi][aj][dj][fj][gj][bk][dk][ek][fk][dl][el][fl][oo][mp][mr][nr][ls]TB[aa][ja][ka][la][ma][ab][jb][kb][lb][mb][ac][bc][kc][lc][nc][ad][bd][md][od][be][af][bf][rh][sh][qi][si][qj][rj][sj][qk][sk][rl][sl][rm][sm][in][jn][rn][sn][co][ro][so][ap][cp][dp][fp][hp][ip][jp][qp][rp][sp][aq][bq][dq][fq][gq][hq][iq][qq][rq][sq][ar][br][cr][er][fr][gr][hr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][qs][rs][ss])(;W[ni];B[nj];W[oj];B[ok];W[pj];B[nl];W[ph]C[W wins]))(;W[cg];B[fi];W[bf];B[be];W[bg];B[ae];W[ej]C[I am not sure that B can survive]))(;W[jc];B[jd];W[kc]C[Shedal: I was afraid of this sequence.];B[lc];W[ib];B[hc];W[hb]C[Sharpest way]))(;W[pg];B[ph];W[og];B[nb]C[Usually this]))(;W[bp];B[ck];W[br]C[Possible]))(;B[io];W[jp];B[jo];W[kp];B[bo];W[cr];B[co];W[fq];B[fp];W[er];B[dq];W[cq];B[dr];W[ds];B[fr];W[es];B[gr];W[hq];B[fn];W[em];B[bq];W[bs];B[bp];W[hr];B[br];W[cs];B[cl]C[Joseki]))(;B[eo];W[dn](;B[jp]C[Ok for B])(;B[dl];W[en];B[gp];W[hq];B[fn];W[fm];B[gn];W[el];B[kq]C[Great for B too])))(;W[ip];B[en];W[cm];B[kp]C[In theory, it's a bad fuseki for W])(;W[do]C[Most common]))