(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]TM[300]OT[25/600 Canadian]PW[Cornel]PB[Dore]WR[七段]BR[3k]DT[2013-07-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp]RE[白胜黑];W[qp]WL[294.264];B[cd]BL[289.001];W[fc]WL[288.12](;B[dc]BL[244.993]C[Cornel [7d]: but nothing wrong to keep things simple with this kosumi];W[jd]WL[284.016];B[lc]BL[240.959];W[fe]WL[281.448];B[gd]BL[228.908]C[Cornel [7d]: good peep];W[fd]WL[270.65];B[dg]BL[212.649]TR[cg]C[Cornel [7d]: also very good extension here Cornel [7d]: also fine to go c13](;W[fq]WL[264.492]C[Krama [12k?]: One question if I may, top side, why did white go for this wall shape, and let black have alsmost whole side and perhaps 2 corners?Dore [3k]: not to be separated and get sente i guessDore [3k]: get sente onceCornel [7d]: yeah];B[cn]BL[202.941];W[kq]WL[260.842]C[Dore [3k]: ok];B[ic]BL[156.095];W[id]WL[257.143];B[jc]BL[145.985];W[kd]WL[255.658](;B[hc]BL[56.11]C[Cornel [7d]: this h17 is a bit questionableCornel [7d]: leaves some aji in the top];W[ge]WL[231.261];B[ld]BL[49.322];W[le]WL[214.597];B[me]BL[47.114];W[lf]WL[212.724](;B[mf]BL[45.082];W[md]WL[208.62];B[mc]BL[39.962];W[nd]WL[204.257](;B[nc]BL[567.049]OB[24];W[mg]WL[196.469];B[ne]BL[555.159]OB[23];W[nf]WL[191.927];B[oe]BL[544.241]OB[22];W[lg]WL[176.674](;B[ko]BL[537.929]OB[21]LB[go:A]C[Cornel [7d]: a nice idea to reduce w's influenceDore [3k]: also thought about g5 Cornel [7d]: this cap is just fine];W[ip]WL[170.178](;B[qq]BL[500.466]OB[20]C[Dore [3k]: was r3 premature?Cornel [7d]: looks a bit questionable :)];W[pq]WL[162.828];B[pp]BL[497.746]OB[19];W[qo]WL[160.817];B[oq]BL[487.414]OB[18];W[pr]WL[156.573];B[lq]BL[486.794]OB[17](;W[or]WL[125.081];B[jq]BL[421.493]OB[16];W[jp]WL[111.753];B[kp]BL[417.51]OB[15];W[kr]WL[109.982];B[mp]BL[387.279]OB[14];W[lr]WL[102.769];B[mr]BL[385.939]OB[13];W[nq]WL[99.232](;B[np]BL[350.676]OB[12]C[connect is better];W[op]WL[96.36];B[nr]BL[333.058]OB[11];W[iq]WL[93.169];B[oo]BL[232.615]OB[10](;W[po]WL[88.759];B[on]BL[230.712]OB[9];W[ci]WL[69.543];B[cg]BL[188.624]OB[8];W[cl]WL[64.923];B[dr]BL[179.618]OB[7]C[Cornel [7d]: nice defense];W[mn]WL[61.001];B[mm]BL[155.347]OB[6];W[ln]WL[57.115];B[nn]BL[150.823]OB[5];W[lm]WL[38.688];B[ml]BL[141.336]OB[4];W[ol]WL[36.431];B[ll]BL[124.712]OB[3];W[jm]WL[22.361];B[kl]BL[88.596]OB[2];W[jn]WL[18.569];B[ok]BL[78.093]OB[1];W[pk]WL[15.985];B[oj]BL[600]OB[25];W[pl]WL[0.576];B[nl]BL[593.216]OB[24];W[rf]WL[590.245]OW[24];B[pj]BL[547.294]OB[23]LB[rd:A][qi:B]C[better to defend the corner and leave white connect his stones];W[qc]WL[573.306]OW[23](;B[qm]BL[493.252]OB[22](;W[rl]WL[564.614]OW[22];B[pn]BL[420.288]OB[21];W[rj]WL[555.203]OW[21];B[og]BL[257.464]OB[20];W[mj]WL[514.617]OW[20];B[lj]BL[197.321]OB[19];W[mi]WL[508.609]OW[19];B[mk]BL[195.927]OB[18];W[qe]WL[485.972]OW[18]C[Cornel [7d]: now w is fine on the right side];B[ng]BL[123.908]OB[17];W[de]WL[474.199]OW[17];B[bg]BL[112.55]OB[16]C[Cornel [7d]: this move is nice but leaves more aji : block or kosumi to connect is enough];W[do]WL[446.024]OW[16];B[co]BL[99.677]OB[15];W[ep]WL[444.321]OW[15](;B[dq]BL[97.02]OB[14]C[black is gote];W[ce]WL[434.686]OW[14];B[be]BL[94.102]OB[13];W[eb]WL[432.654]OW[13];B[db]BL[91.645]OB[12];W[ik]WL[418.622]OW[12](;B[ii]BL[84.932]OB[11];W[ji]WL[391.093]OW[11];B[jj]BL[70.995]OB[10];W[ij]WL[389.1]OW[10](;B[hi]BL[58.675]OB[9]C[Cornel [7d]: this was too ambitious and dangerous:)];W[fi]WL[376.827]OW[9];B[fh]BL[55.09]OB[8];W[eh]WL[374.114]OW[8];B[ei]BL[223.39]OB[7];W[ej]WL[349.259]OW[7];B[fg]BL[183.367]OB[6];W[dd]WL[342.725]OW[6];B[bd]BL[125.781]OB[5];W[eg]WL[338.995]OW[5];B[kh]BL[118.91]OB[4];W[ki]WL[329.02]OW[4];B[li]BL[53.493]OB[3];W[jh]WL[326.297]OW[3];B[kg]BL[51.495]OB[2];W[jg]WL[311.298]OW[2];B[kf]BL[101.358]OB[1];W[lh]WL[306.302]OW[1];B[ef]BL[600]OB[25];W[di]WL[600]OW[25])(;B[jh];W[ki];B[li];W[kh];B[lh];W[kg];B[di];W[dj];B[ei];W[gi];B[ej];W[dk];B[fg];W[gg];B[fr];W[gr];B[eq];W[fp];B[gs];W[hs];B[fs];W[hr];B[rm];W[qh];B[qd];W[rd];B[qb];W[pc];B[pb];W[rc];B[oc]C[Cornel [7d]: should play normal yose ]))(;B[li];W[lh];B[ji];W[ii];B[ih];W[hi];B[dk];W[ck];B[di];W[dj];B[ej];W[cj];B[ei];W[em];B[fl];W[ek];B[fk];W[el];B[gj]))(;B[eq];W[er];B[dq];W[fp]C[Cornel [7d]: b sente now]))(;W[pm];B[pn];W[qn];B[qj];W[ql];B[rd];W[qd];B[qe];W[re];B[rc](;W[pc];B[rb])(;W[qf];B[pe];W[og]C[Cornel [7d]: w in troubles this way])))(;B[rd];W[qd];B[qe];W[re];B[rc];W[qf];B[pe]C[Cornel [7d]: big corner]))(;W[oq];B[mq];W[on];B[no];W[po]C[difficult for black]))(;B[mq];W[iq];B[kl]))(;W[kp]C[Krama [12k?]: Hello](;B[lp];W[lo]C[Cornel [7d]: where next ?])(;B[mo];W[lo];B[ln];W[lp];B[mn];W[mq];B[nq];W[po];B[op];W[rq];B[mp];W[lr]C[Cornel [7d]: seems you give too much territory in this sequence])))(;B[io];W[jo];B[jn];W[jp];B[km];W[ln];B[kn];W[mp];B[qq]TR[mp]C[Cornel [7d]: it's more common to play the contact like thisCornel [7d]: when w has a stone around n4])(;B[op];W[pn];B[qq];W[rq];B[pq];W[ro];B[lq];W[lr];B[kr];W[jr];B[kp];W[ks];B[jq];W[kr];B[mq]))(;B[go];W[op];B[hp];W[cq];B[dq];W[dr];B[er];W[cr];B[eq];W[bo];B[bn];W[co];B[do];W[cp];B[qk]))(;B[oe]C[Cornel [7d]: does this work ?];W[re];B[rd];W[qe];B[qd];W[qi]C[Cornel [7d]: is playable]))(;B[pm]LB[nd:A][qe:B]C[A and B are also possible];W[op];B[pj];W[md];B[mc];W[nd];B[nc]C[Cornel [7d]: is actually not a big problem if w cuts q16]))(;B[kc];W[hc];B[ld]C[Cornel [7d]: could play solid instead]))(;W[jb]C[this is the shape but with two handicap stones, it would be slow];B[op](;W[oq];B[nq];W[pq];B[mp];W[qn];B[gq]C[Cornel [7d]: if I protect in the top b can go for the bottom and it becomes really big])(;W[mq];B[qq];W[qm];B[pp];W[rp];B[nq];W[lp];B[rq];W[qj];B[ip];W[nr];B[or];W[np];B[oq];W[no];B[pn]C[Cornel [7d]: is a different game this way ;)]))(;W[le];B[nc];W[fq]))(;B[hc];W[cc];B[dc];W[dd];B[cb];W[bc];B[ed];W[de];B[ec];W[bb];B[ef];W[ee];B[fe];W[ce];B[fd]C[Cornel [7d]: is possible to play this joseki too (but black is gote)]))