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s12];B[jk]BL[20]OB[2];W[ii]WL[20]OW[2];B[ij]BL[20]OB[2];W[ji]WL[20]OW[2];B[km]BL[20]OB[2];W[rh]WL[20]OW[2];B[ri]BL[20]OB[2];W[sg]WL[20]OW[2];B[qi]BL[20]OB[2];W[si]WL[20]OW[2];B[pj]BL[20]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k]: a bit big :)mkeller [6k]: there it is];W[jl]WL[20]OW[2];B[ik]BL[20]OB[2]C[shosuke: gonna be hard];W[nk]WL[20]OW[2]C[Sheeple [1k]: w has to let live :)mkeller [6k]: o9?AdrianMonk [5d]: w should have done this before s12 perhapsFerby [2k?]: hmm];B[mn]BL[20]OB[2];W[pi]WL[20]OW[2]C[praeludium [5d]: o9 waste a threat??????????Ferby [2k?]: was l7 really needed?];B[oh]BL[20]OB[2]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: o9 reverse threatDeejay [2d]: yea l7 not needed i thinkSheeple [1k]: b still has 2praeludium [5d]: how adrian... ];W[pj]WL[20]OW[1]C[praeludium [5d]: b plays o9 b lose sente];B[ng]BL[20]OB[2]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: if take ko then o10 o9 q10 ];W[il]WL[20]OW[1];B[hl]BL[20]OB[2];W[jn]WL[20]OW[1]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: not lose sente cos w in ataripraeludium [5d]: okpraeludium [5d]: you're right];B[gk]BL[20]OB[2];W[ln]WL[20]OW[1];B[mm]BL[20]OB[2];W[lo]WL[20]OW[1];B[mp]BL[20]OB[2]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: not a bad result for b i think];W[hn]WL[20]OW[1];B[fn]BL[20]OB[1];W[fm]WL[20]OW[1];B[gn]BL[20]OB[1];W[hj]WL[20]OW[1];B[hk]BL[20]OB[1];W[gm]WL[20]OW[1];B[hm]BL[20]OB[1];W[im]WL[20]OW[1];B[ho]BL[20]OB[1];W[in]WL[20]OW[1];B[em]BL[20]OB[1];W[fl]WL[20]OW[1];B[fj]BL[20]OB[1];W[el]WL[20]OW[1];B[dj]BL[20]OB[1];W[dm]WL[20]OW[1];B[en]BL[20]OB[1]C[coarray [-]: 陈正勋？];W[mo]WL[20]OW[1];B[np]BL[20]OB[1];W[no]WL[20]OW[1];B[nn]BL[20]OB[1];W[op]WL[20]OW[1];B[oq]BL[20]OB[1];W[oo]WL[20]OW[1];B[mq]BL[20]OB[1];W[po]WL[20]OW[1]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: hmm i would be tempted to sack those 5 stonesAdrianMonk [5d]: complicated now];B[qp]BL[20]OB[1]C[grooviest [5k]: which 5?AdrianMonk [5d]: n6 n7 n8 m8 o8 ];W[qo]WL[20]OW[1]C[wichtiger [5k]: 8d lol];B[ro]BL[20]OB[1];W[nr]WL[20]OW[1];B[mr]BL[20]OB[1];W[pq]WL[20]OW[1];B[or]BL[20]OB[1];W[rp]WL[20]OW[1]C[vanezigy [5k]: lol];B[qq]BL[20]OB[1];W[so]WL[20]OW[1];B[rn]BL[20]OB[1];W[pr]WL[20]OW[1];B[ns]BL[20]OB[1];W[qr]WL[20]OW[1];B[rq]BL[20]OB[1];W[sq]WL[20]OW[1];B[sp]BL[20]OB[1];W[ej]WL[20]OW[1]C[grooviest [5k]: my god];B[ei]BL[20]OB[1];W[rp]WL[20]OW[1]C[grooviest [5k]: all that for this ko];B[rr]BL[20]OB[1];W[rs]WL[20]OW[1];B[sp]BL[20]OB[1];W[gj]WL[20]OW[1]C[helloworld [1k]: w needs a kill];B[fk]BL[20]OB[1];W[rp]WL[20]OW[1];B[kn]BL[20]OB[1]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: question is, is winning the ko sente for w];W[ko]WL[20]OW[1];B[sp]BL[20]OB[1];W[ek]WL[20]OW[1];B[fi]BL[20]OB[1];W[rp]WL[20]OW[1];B[io]BL[20]OB[1]C[AdrianMonk [5d]: ignore];W[sr]WL[20]OW[1];B[jo]BL[20]OB[1];W[kq]WL[20]OW[1];B[kr]BL[20]OB[1];W[jr]WL[20]OW[1];B[lr]BL[20]OB[1];W[bp]WL[20]OW[1];B[cq]BL[20]OB[1];W[iq]WL[20]OW[1];B[cl]BL[20]OB[1];W[ck]WL[20]OW[1];B[dk]BL[20]OB[1];W[dl]WL[20]OW[1];B[cj]BL[20]OB[1];W[bq]WL[20]OW[1]C[ledeiR [2d]: j3 is strange];B[br]BL[20]OB[1];W[cp]WL[20]OW[1];B[dq]BL[20]OB[1];W[ar]WL[20]OW[1];B[bs]BL[20]OB[1]C[AdrianMonk 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